Applying Schema change.

Hi.
One of teh major problems we are facing is happening when we change the data
base structure for new releases and we want to dispatch this to existing
clients.
1.Is there a utility that allow us to apply the new schema on an exiting
data base.
2. Is there also a utility that will list records that are imcompatible with
the new schema (constraints violations ,etc...)
thanks1.
http://www.innovartis.co.uk/database_dbghost_home.aspx
http://www.red-gate.com/SQL_Compare.htm
2. I'm not aware of any. Typically I would expect to develop my own
transformations to align the legacy data with the new schema.
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
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Application-controlled transactions, isolation level and commit/rollbacks

If application code controls all transaction processing to SQL Server, so it starts a transaction, does any commit or rollback on teh application side, how does that actually work ON SQL Server 2005... Meaning, If the app passes in a isolation level of Repeatable Read, and the database default is different, how can I see what is being used, as a DBA? Can I see any of that via Profiler? can I see when those commits/rollbacks are issued from teh application. They are not sending in "SQL" commit/rollback transaction commands. It's built-in to their architecture to control all that... How can I see what's happening on the database if these are not SQL commands for transaction handling? and how does that work, to start a transaction on the app side, and hold locks etc, on SQL Server if normal SQL Server commands are not being sent? If anyone can point me at decent references to read on that, thanks! Bruce

Are you talking about application controlled transactions as in the application only works through stored procedures? Or do you mean it use DTC Transactions? Either way, you should be able to catch these with SQL Profiler.

|||Yes, Peter, the application uses stored procs in all cases.. there is no Transaction handling inside the procs... no begin trans, rollback/commits... that is all on the app side, and I'm not sure how it's being sent to SQL Server, via DTC or what... I'll try tracing again and seeing if they can force a rollback, and see what comes thru in SQL Server... Thanks, Bruce|||I was also hoping to see what Isolation Level my stored procedures are being executed at via the profiler. I just don't see how I can do that, or anything like it.

I would be grateful of any further information or help.

Regards
Darren
|||

Bruce dBA wrote:

Yes, Peter, the application uses stored procs in all cases.. there is no Transaction handling inside the procs... no begin trans, rollback/commits... that is all on the app side, and I'm not sure how it's being sent to SQL Server, via DTC or what... I'll try tracing again and seeing if they can force a rollback, and see what comes thru in SQL Server... Thanks, Bruce

In .NET 2.0 and above there are two other kinds of transactions that uses isolation levels and rollbacks one is atomic like the SQL Server transactions while the other is not but SQL Server 2005 is equiped to handle the none atomic transaction while 2000 is not so DTC is needed to run the none atomic in SQL Server 2000. The transactions from ADO.NET System.Data is atomic while the transaction from System.Transaction which uses TransactionScope it not. Try the links below for details.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.transactions.aspx

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.data.isolationlevel.aspx

Application-controlled transactions, isolation level and commit/rollbacks

If application code controls all transaction processing to SQL Server, so it starts a transaction, does any commit or rollback on teh application side, how does that actually work ON SQL Server 2005... Meaning, If the app passes in a isolation level of Repeatable Read, and the database default is different, how can I see what is being used, as a DBA? Can I see any of that via Profiler? can I see when those commits/rollbacks are issued from teh application. They are not sending in "SQL" commit/rollback transaction commands. It's built-in to their architecture to control all that... How can I see what's happening on the database if these are not SQL commands for transaction handling? and how does that work, to start a transaction on the app side, and hold locks etc, on SQL Server if normal SQL Server commands are not being sent? If anyone can point me at decent references to read on that, thanks! Bruce

Are you talking about application controlled transactions as in the application only works through stored procedures? Or do you mean it use DTC Transactions? Either way, you should be able to catch these with SQL Profiler.

|||Yes, Peter, the application uses stored procs in all cases.. there is no Transaction handling inside the procs... no begin trans, rollback/commits... that is all on the app side, and I'm not sure how it's being sent to SQL Server, via DTC or what... I'll try tracing again and seeing if they can force a rollback, and see what comes thru in SQL Server... Thanks, Bruce|||I was also hoping to see what Isolation Level my stored procedures are being executed at via the profiler. I just don't see how I can do that, or anything like it.

I would be grateful of any further information or help.

Regards
Darren
|||

Bruce dBA wrote:

Yes, Peter, the application uses stored procs in all cases.. there is no Transaction handling inside the procs... no begin trans, rollback/commits... that is all on the app side, and I'm not sure how it's being sent to SQL Server, via DTC or what... I'll try tracing again and seeing if they can force a rollback, and see what comes thru in SQL Server... Thanks, Bruce

In .NET 2.0 and above there are two other kinds of transactions that uses isolation levels and rollbacks one is atomic like the SQL Server transactions while the other is not but SQL Server 2005 is equiped to handle the none atomic transaction while 2000 is not so DTC is needed to run the none atomic in SQL Server 2000. The transactions from ADO.NET System.Data is atomic while the transaction from System.Transaction which uses TransactionScope it not. Try the links below for details.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.transactions.aspx

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.data.isolationlevel.aspx