Anyway to quick ntext Search

Helloo..
I there anyway to make ntext search faster'
I have a table of legal documents with 2 million text record, While no full
text index & search on text fields searching with "Like is very very slow".
I need anyway to make it faster using any techniques..
Do i need to use cursor or how can i solve this issue'
I can't use nvarchar coz of size limititionIslamegy wrote on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:18:28 +0200:

> Helloo..
> I there anyway to make ntext search faster'
> I have a table of legal documents with 2 million text record, While no
> full text index & search on text fields searching with "Like is very very
> slow". I need anyway to make it faster using any techniques..
> Do i need to use cursor or how can i solve this issue'
> I can't use nvarchar coz of size limitition
Any particular reason why you can't use Full Text Search?
Dan|||Because Full Text index dosn't apply of Text Fields of type "text",
"ntext"!!!
"Daniel Crichton" <msnews@.worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Islamegy wrote on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:18:28 +0200:
>
> Any particular reason why you can't use Full Text Search?
> Dan
>|||Islamegy wrote on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:27:02 +0200:

> Because Full Text index dosn't apply of Text Fields of type "text",
> "ntext"!!!
Yes it does. I'm using it on a text column in one of my databases!
Dan|||Yes, performing a non-indexed search on the text of 2 million documents is
going to be slow. I'm surprised that it's just optimization you are
concerned with and the actual feasability.
Of course, consider using the Full-Text feature.
If you must perform LIKE comparisons on the rows, perhaps it would be
possible to run a process that parses the text of each document and then
stores key words in something like a 120 length varchar column.
For example:
Jacobs;California;McNeal;disability;insu
rance;claim
Once done, this column could be used for LIKE searches.
"Islamegy" <NULL_Islamegy_NULL@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Helloo..
> I there anyway to make ntext search faster'
> I have a table of legal documents with 2 million text record, While no
> full text index & search on text fields searching with "Like is very very
> slow".
> I need anyway to make it faster using any techniques..
> Do i need to use cursor or how can i solve this issue'
> I can't use nvarchar coz of size limitition
>|||Why would you think that? It does in fact work on text and ntext columns.
Robbe Morris - 2004/2005 Microsoft MVP C#
http://www.masterado.net
"Islamegy" <NULL_Islamegy_NULL@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Because Full Text index dosn't apply of Text Fields of type "text",
> "ntext"!!!
> "Daniel Crichton" <msnews@.worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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>|||How do u do it' When i try to use "Contain(Text column,"some words").. it
don't accept my query!!
As i know from my research it dosn't work on text..
Anyway my database is Arabic, so i thought ntext is ok but when i converted
it to text it became 20% faster.
Also finally i discovered that collation is work as a magic. When i switched
it from Arabic_CI_AI to Arabic_BIN this cut the search time to the half. for
now this is really so great success, if you have anyone have ideas for more
improvment plz let me now..
thanx
"Daniel Crichton" <msnews@.worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Islamegy wrote on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:27:02 +0200:
>
> Yes it does. I'm using it on a text column in one of my databases!
> Dan
>|||Islamegy wrote on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:48:54 +0200:

> How do u do it' When i try to use "Contain(Text column,"some words").. it
> don't accept my query!!
> As i know from my research it dosn't work on text..
I'm guessing you haven't created the FTS index yet. Read BOL on how to do
this.

> Anyway my database is Arabic, so i thought ntext is ok but when i
> converted it to text it became 20% faster.
> Also finally i discovered that collation is work as a magic. When i
> switched it from Arabic_CI_AI to Arabic_BIN this cut the search time to
> the half. for now this is really so great success, if you have anyone have
> ideas for more improvment plz let me now..
Using FTS you might see a significant improvement. You'd do well to post
questions about it microsoft.public.sqlserver.fulltext
Dan|||Keep in mind that text stores text in ANSI (1 byte per character) and ntext
stores the text in Unicode (2 bytes per character) format. This is why ntext
will require more disk storage and operations on the data will be somewhat
slower. If the character set is Arabic, then you have no other choice but
the use Unicode.
"Islamegy" <NULL_Islamegy_NULL@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> How do u do it' When i try to use "Contain(Text column,"some words").. it
> don't accept my query!!
> As i know from my research it dosn't work on text..
> Anyway my database is Arabic, so i thought ntext is ok but when i
> converted it to text it became 20% faster.
> Also finally i discovered that collation is work as a magic. When i
> switched it from Arabic_CI_AI to Arabic_BIN this cut the search time to
> the half. for now this is really so great success, if you have anyone have
> ideas for more improvment plz let me now..
> thanx
> "Daniel Crichton" <msnews@.worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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