Archiving AS 2000 Database to a network backup server

WE are currently using the following to archive our AS 2000 OLAP cubes to the local directory on the server:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "c:\BackupFiles\DataMart.cab" It runs inside an agent job. It works fine.

I wanted to change it to archive to our standard backup server location. So I changed it to the following:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab". The job now fails & outputs nothing to the log file. The only thing it says when I view history on the job is : Executed as user: SqlAdmin. The step did not generate any output. Process Exit Code 1. The step failed.

At first I thought maybe AS 2000 couldn't archive over the network so I open up AS Manager & manually did an archive to the same network location. It was successfull. So that blew my theory.

I don't know why the job won't do the archive to the network location. Any ideas?

Thanks,

John

If you can manually run the command

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

then it's possible that the SqlAdmin user doesn't have write permissions to the share.

Adrian

|||

Adrian,

I forgot to mention that SQLAdmin does have privileges to the network backup location. We use this same login for all our SQL backups as well.

I wasn't ever able to get the command to run manually. I was able to manually run the archive process through Analysis manager. Don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

JOhn

|||

Unless you have changed the default data directory, I think you have an incorrect "datamart" sub folder in your data directory parameter.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

try removing it and see if the command works then.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

Also, where are you running Analysis Manager from? Judging by the (x86) in the path I would say that your AS2k server is 64bit and all the management tools (including msmdarch.exe) are 32 bit. The last recommendation I saw said to try to run these tools from a 32bit machine and not on the 64bit server. I don't know if that means it would not work, but it might be another option to explore.

|||

Darren,

I removed the extra "datamart" from the command but same result.

Sorry I didn't mention this earlier. I am running W2K3 64 bit with AS 2000 32 bit. I was running Analysis Manager on the 64 bit server when I was able to do the archive manually. WIth this command, I am running it under SQL 2005 EE 64 bit agent job.

I tried running the following command from our 32 bit test server but it had the same result:

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a 64BitServer"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\64BitServer\DataMart.cab"

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

John

|||

Hmm, running out of ideas.

Have you tried mapping a drive so that you are backing up to z:\... or something like that?

Have you tried specifying the other 2 optional parameter (the logfile and tempfolder)? The log file might give you some ideas, although it might be blank, I seem to remember having trouble like this once, but I can't remember how I resolved it.

Finally, if all else fails there was some documentation, I think in the operations guide whitepaper, on how to "manually" back up an AS2k server by taking a file back up of the data directory and the repository database.

|||

Darren,

A mapped drive seems to work. Although, I don't like using mapped drives on our servers but I may have to make an exception in this instance. Maybe I will have it archive locally & then execute a batch job that would xcopy the .cab file to the backup server.

I also tried adding the log & temp folder parameters but that did not make any difference. I still got the useless blank log file. It seems like this should work or somewhere it would be documented that you can't use UNC paths for the archive process.

Thanks for the help,

JOhn

|||

Hello,

Enjoyed reading the thread, I had a thought that might be helpful:

You might try enabling UNC support for your command prompt. By default, Microsoft ships this flag turned off, but I've yet to have any trouble with it turned on. YMMV.

Microsoft KB156276 instructions for doing this:

Under the registry path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\Command Processor

add the value DisableUNCCheck REG_DWORD and set the value to 0 x 1 (Hex).

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/156276

I hope this helps you. Good luck...!

-ed2

|||

Ed,

Thanks for the thought. I added this to the registry & then ran my job but same result. It may need to have a reboot to get the change into effect. However, the KB article lists this as a bug for Win NT 4 & states that it would be fixed in a SP. So I would hope that this has been fixed in Windows 2003 server. I will leave it until after a reboot to see if it works or not.

THe batch job is working great btw.

John

|||

I'm sorry to hear this wasn't a fix... WIth only 8 months of mainstream support remaining on SQL Server 2000, it's hard to imagine this will get much attention, but you might try opening a call if you can justify the expense...

Read the KB article I sent you over again, and you'll find out that the fix is in Win2K, XP, and Win2K3. The KB article said that NT4 originally had no check for UNC pathing in the command prompt, and that caused problems for users who would launch Windows apps from the command prompt session, then close the command prompt and the pipeline to the exe file would become broken. To remedy this Microsoft changed CMD.EXE such that whenever you use a UNC path at the command line it produces an error message UNLESS you put in the registry entry from the KB article. So basically the fix was to decide that it was inappropriate to use UNC pathing at the command prompt. However, I think that once you understand the limitations (and know what not to do), the benefits gained by using the UNC pathing outweigh the risks.

In one of the earlier posts it sounded as though you might be running the job from SQL Server Agent. I've seen some odd behavior from that in some ways -- for example, I wasn't able to call an osql command from SQL Server Agent using xp_cmdshell (pointless as that might seem). So, if you haven't already done so, try the Windows Job Scheduler instead.

Best wishes,

Ed

Archiving AS 2000 Database to a network backup server

WE are currently using the following to archive our AS 2000 OLAP cubes to the local directory on the server:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "c:\BackupFiles\DataMart.cab" It runs inside an agent job. It works fine.

I wanted to change it to archive to our standard backup server location. So I changed it to the following:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab". The job now fails & outputs nothing to the log file. The only thing it says when I view history on the job is : Executed as user: SqlAdmin. The step did not generate any output. Process Exit Code 1. The step failed.

At first I thought maybe AS 2000 couldn't archive over the network so I open up AS Manager & manually did an archive to the same network location. It was successfull. So that blew my theory.

I don't know why the job won't do the archive to the network location. Any ideas?

Thanks,

John

If you can manually run the command

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

then it's possible that the SqlAdmin user doesn't have write permissions to the share.

Adrian

|||

Adrian,

I forgot to mention that SQLAdmin does have privileges to the network backup location. We use this same login for all our SQL backups as well.

I wasn't ever able to get the command to run manually. I was able to manually run the archive process through Analysis manager. Don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

JOhn

|||

Unless you have changed the default data directory, I think you have an incorrect "datamart" sub folder in your data directory parameter.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

try removing it and see if the command works then.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

Also, where are you running Analysis Manager from? Judging by the (x86) in the path I would say that your AS2k server is 64bit and all the management tools (including msmdarch.exe) are 32 bit. The last recommendation I saw said to try to run these tools from a 32bit machine and not on the 64bit server. I don't know if that means it would not work, but it might be another option to explore.

|||

Darren,

I removed the extra "datamart" from the command but same result.

Sorry I didn't mention this earlier. I am running W2K3 64 bit with AS 2000 32 bit. I was running Analysis Manager on the 64 bit server when I was able to do the archive manually. WIth this command, I am running it under SQL 2005 EE 64 bit agent job.

I tried running the following command from our 32 bit test server but it had the same result:

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a 64BitServer"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\64BitServer\DataMart.cab"

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

John

|||

Hmm, running out of ideas.

Have you tried mapping a drive so that you are backing up to z:\... or something like that?

Have you tried specifying the other 2 optional parameter (the logfile and tempfolder)? The log file might give you some ideas, although it might be blank, I seem to remember having trouble like this once, but I can't remember how I resolved it.

Finally, if all else fails there was some documentation, I think in the operations guide whitepaper, on how to "manually" back up an AS2k server by taking a file back up of the data directory and the repository database.

|||

Darren,

A mapped drive seems to work. Although, I don't like using mapped drives on our servers but I may have to make an exception in this instance. Maybe I will have it archive locally & then execute a batch job that would xcopy the .cab file to the backup server.

I also tried adding the log & temp folder parameters but that did not make any difference. I still got the useless blank log file. It seems like this should work or somewhere it would be documented that you can't use UNC paths for the archive process.

Thanks for the help,

JOhn

|||

Hello,

Enjoyed reading the thread, I had a thought that might be helpful:

You might try enabling UNC support for your command prompt. By default, Microsoft ships this flag turned off, but I've yet to have any trouble with it turned on. YMMV.

Microsoft KB156276 instructions for doing this:

Under the registry path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\Command Processor

add the value DisableUNCCheck REG_DWORD and set the value to 0 x 1 (Hex).

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/156276

I hope this helps you. Good luck...!

-ed2

|||

Ed,

Thanks for the thought. I added this to the registry & then ran my job but same result. It may need to have a reboot to get the change into effect. However, the KB article lists this as a bug for Win NT 4 & states that it would be fixed in a SP. So I would hope that this has been fixed in Windows 2003 server. I will leave it until after a reboot to see if it works or not.

THe batch job is working great btw.

John

|||

I'm sorry to hear this wasn't a fix... WIth only 8 months of mainstream support remaining on SQL Server 2000, it's hard to imagine this will get much attention, but you might try opening a call if you can justify the expense...

Read the KB article I sent you over again, and you'll find out that the fix is in Win2K, XP, and Win2K3. The KB article said that NT4 originally had no check for UNC pathing in the command prompt, and that caused problems for users who would launch Windows apps from the command prompt session, then close the command prompt and the pipeline to the exe file would become broken. To remedy this Microsoft changed CMD.EXE such that whenever you use a UNC path at the command line it produces an error message UNLESS you put in the registry entry from the KB article. So basically the fix was to decide that it was inappropriate to use UNC pathing at the command prompt. However, I think that once you understand the limitations (and know what not to do), the benefits gained by using the UNC pathing outweigh the risks.

In one of the earlier posts it sounded as though you might be running the job from SQL Server Agent. I've seen some odd behavior from that in some ways -- for example, I wasn't able to call an osql command from SQL Server Agent using xp_cmdshell (pointless as that might seem). So, if you haven't already done so, try the Windows Job Scheduler instead.

Best wishes,

Ed

Archiving AS 2000 Database to a network backup server

WE are currently using the following to archive our AS 2000 OLAP cubes to the local directory on the server:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "c:\BackupFiles\DataMart.cab" It runs inside an agent job. It works fine.

I wanted to change it to archive to our standard backup server location. So I changed it to the following:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab". The job now fails & outputs nothing to the log file. The only thing it says when I view history on the job is : Executed as user: SqlAdmin. The step did not generate any output. Process Exit Code 1. The step failed.

At first I thought maybe AS 2000 couldn't archive over the network so I open up AS Manager & manually did an archive to the same network location. It was successfull. So that blew my theory.

I don't know why the job won't do the archive to the network location. Any ideas?

Thanks,

John

If you can manually run the command

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

then it's possible that the SqlAdmin user doesn't have write permissions to the share.

Adrian

|||

Adrian,

I forgot to mention that SQLAdmin does have privileges to the network backup location. We use this same login for all our SQL backups as well.

I wasn't ever able to get the command to run manually. I was able to manually run the archive process through Analysis manager. Don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

JOhn

|||

Unless you have changed the default data directory, I think you have an incorrect "datamart" sub folder in your data directory parameter.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\DataMart" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

try removing it and see if the command works then.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a ServerName"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\ServerName\DataMart.cab"

Also, where are you running Analysis Manager from? Judging by the (x86) in the path I would say that your AS2k server is 64bit and all the management tools (including msmdarch.exe) are 32 bit. The last recommendation I saw said to try to run these tools from a 32bit machine and not on the 64bit server. I don't know if that means it would not work, but it might be another option to explore.

|||

Darren,

I removed the extra "datamart" from the command but same result.

Sorry I didn't mention this earlier. I am running W2K3 64 bit with AS 2000 32 bit. I was running Analysis Manager on the 64 bit server when I was able to do the archive manually. WIth this command, I am running it under SQL 2005 EE 64 bit agent job.

I tried running the following command from our 32 bit test server but it had the same result:

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Analysis Services\Bin\msmdarch" /a 64BitServer"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\Data\" "DataMart" "\\10.0.50.115\Disk3\servers\SQL\64BitServer\DataMart.cab"

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

John

|||

Hmm, running out of ideas.

Have you tried mapping a drive so that you are backing up to z:\... or something like that?

Have you tried specifying the other 2 optional parameter (the logfile and tempfolder)? The log file might give you some ideas, although it might be blank, I seem to remember having trouble like this once, but I can't remember how I resolved it.

Finally, if all else fails there was some documentation, I think in the operations guide whitepaper, on how to "manually" back up an AS2k server by taking a file back up of the data directory and the repository database.

|||

Darren,

A mapped drive seems to work. Although, I don't like using mapped drives on our servers but I may have to make an exception in this instance. Maybe I will have it archive locally & then execute a batch job that would xcopy the .cab file to the backup server.

I also tried adding the log & temp folder parameters but that did not make any difference. I still got the useless blank log file. It seems like this should work or somewhere it would be documented that you can't use UNC paths for the archive process.

Thanks for the help,

JOhn

|||

Hello,

Enjoyed reading the thread, I had a thought that might be helpful:

You might try enabling UNC support for your command prompt. By default, Microsoft ships this flag turned off, but I've yet to have any trouble with it turned on. YMMV.

Microsoft KB156276 instructions for doing this:

Under the registry path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\Command Processor

add the value DisableUNCCheck REG_DWORD and set the value to 0 x 1 (Hex).

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/156276

I hope this helps you. Good luck...!

-ed2

|||

Ed,

Thanks for the thought. I added this to the registry & then ran my job but same result. It may need to have a reboot to get the change into effect. However, the KB article lists this as a bug for Win NT 4 & states that it would be fixed in a SP. So I would hope that this has been fixed in Windows 2003 server. I will leave it until after a reboot to see if it works or not.

THe batch job is working great btw.

John

|||

I'm sorry to hear this wasn't a fix... WIth only 8 months of mainstream support remaining on SQL Server 2000, it's hard to imagine this will get much attention, but you might try opening a call if you can justify the expense...

Read the KB article I sent you over again, and you'll find out that the fix is in Win2K, XP, and Win2K3. The KB article said that NT4 originally had no check for UNC pathing in the command prompt, and that caused problems for users who would launch Windows apps from the command prompt session, then close the command prompt and the pipeline to the exe file would become broken. To remedy this Microsoft changed CMD.EXE such that whenever you use a UNC path at the command line it produces an error message UNLESS you put in the registry entry from the KB article. So basically the fix was to decide that it was inappropriate to use UNC pathing at the command prompt. However, I think that once you understand the limitations (and know what not to do), the benefits gained by using the UNC pathing outweigh the risks.

In one of the earlier posts it sounded as though you might be running the job from SQL Server Agent. I've seen some odd behavior from that in some ways -- for example, I wasn't able to call an osql command from SQL Server Agent using xp_cmdshell (pointless as that might seem). So, if you haven't already done so, try the Windows Job Scheduler instead.

Best wishes,

Ed

Archiving

What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat files/bcp/DTS
may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back it
up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
needed. Any other options?
Thanks
BVR
Why not just back up the database itself?
One thing you could do is put the tables w/ binary data on their own
filegroup -- then just back up that filegroup more regularly -- if that's
what you need?
Adam Machanic
SQL Server MVP
http://www.sqljunkies.com/weblog/amachanic
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:eMjAtpdKFHA.3552@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>

Archiving

What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat files/bcp/DTS
may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back it
up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
needed. Any other options?
Thanks
BVRVyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>|||Here's the link: http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_archive_data.htm
--
HTH,
Vyas, MVP (SQL Server)
SQL Server Articles and Code Samples @. http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
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Vyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>|||Narayanan,
I saw your Link, it looks good but i think it may or may not work if the
orders for 6 months is more than 100,000.
What happens if the data is more than 100,000 as we have in a real-time
system.
my solution was (lets take 6 months period - 100,000 records)
If you have to leave 10,000 on live production database and remove the rest
to history database.
This is how I did and its working great.
1. Check the record count of the database based on date.
2. Use Chunking method - means copy 1000-5000 every time depending on the
load from the live database to temp archive database on the live server then
call another str proc to copy data from temp archive to remote archive
database server.
(reason being if network goes down btw live server/remote server [reason
unknown] you can still have data in temp not lost and can come back redo the
data.)
3. once copied to remote archive server, now come back delete that data from
the live database by "delete from live where seqno in temp archive database"
and later delete from temp archive. (seqno is a primary key field)
I go beyond this, once all the data has been copied, i check for the first
and last copied to archive server exists meaning it has successfully copied.
I wrote a program to do this, the program just calls 3 stored procedures and
str proc does all the above function.
Too much isn't it.
Arun
"Narayana Vyas Kondreddi" wrote:
> Here's the link: http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_archive_data.htm
> --
> HTH,
> Vyas, MVP (SQL Server)
> SQL Server Articles and Code Samples @. http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
>
> "Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
> news:Ogj%23SXfKFHA.3332@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
> Vyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
> http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
>
>
> "Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
> files/bcp/DTS
> > may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> > quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
> it
> > up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> > needed. Any other options?
> >
> > Thanks
> > BVR
> >
> >
>
>

Archiving

What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat files/bcp/DTS
may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back it
up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
needed. Any other options?
Thanks
BVR
Vyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>
|||Here's the link: http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_archive_data.htm
HTH,
Vyas, MVP (SQL Server)
SQL Server Articles and Code Samples @. http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:Ogj%23SXfKFHA.3332@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Vyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>
|||Narayanan,
I saw your Link, it looks good but i think it may or may not work if the
orders for 6 months is more than 100,000.
What happens if the data is more than 100,000 as we have in a real-time
system.
my solution was (lets take 6 months period - 100,000 records)
If you have to leave 10,000 on live production database and remove the rest
to history database.
This is how I did and its working great.
1. Check the record count of the database based on date.
2. Use Chunking method - means copy 1000-5000 every time depending on the
load from the live database to temp archive database on the live server then
call another str proc to copy data from temp archive to remote archive
database server.
(reason being if network goes down btw live server/remote server [reason
unknown] you can still have data in temp not lost and can come back redo the
data.)
3. once copied to remote archive server, now come back delete that data from
the live database by "delete from live where seqno in temp archive database"
and later delete from temp archive. (seqno is a primary key field)
I go beyond this, once all the data has been copied, i check for the first
and last copied to archive server exists meaning it has successfully copied.
I wrote a program to do this, the program just calls 3 stored procedures and
str proc does all the above function.
Too much isn't it.
Arun
"Narayana Vyas Kondreddi" wrote:

> Here's the link: http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_archive_data.htm
> --
> HTH,
> Vyas, MVP (SQL Server)
> SQL Server Articles and Code Samples @. http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
>
> "Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
> news:Ogj%23SXfKFHA.3332@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
> Vyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
> http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
>
>
> "Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> files/bcp/DTS
> it
>
>

Archiving

What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat files/bcp/DTS
may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back it
up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
needed. Any other options?
Thanks
BVRWhy not just back up the database itself?
One thing you could do is put the tables w/ binary data on their own
filegroup -- then just back up that filegroup more regularly -- if that's
what you need?
Adam Machanic
SQL Server MVP
http://www.sqljunkies.com/weblog/amachanic
--
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:eMjAtpdKFHA.3552@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>sql

Archiving

What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat files/bcp/DTS
may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back it
up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
needed. Any other options?
Thanks
BVRVyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>|||Here's the link: http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_archive_data.htm
--
HTH,
Vyas, MVP (SQL Server)
SQL Server Articles and Code Samples @. http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:Ogj%23SXfKFHA.3332@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Vyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What's the best way to archive tables with binary data? Flat
files/bcp/DTS
> may not work if need to import binary data(not a fixed length column) with
> quotes etc. What I am thinking is to export to another database and back
it
> up/archive on a regular basis. That way it will be easy to restore when
> needed. Any other options?
> Thanks
> BVR
>|||Narayanan,
I saw your Link, it looks good but i think it may or may not work if the
orders for 6 months is more than 100,000.
What happens if the data is more than 100,000 as we have in a real-time
system.
my solution was (lets take 6 months period - 100,000 records)
If you have to leave 10,000 on live production database and remove the rest
to history database.
This is how I did and its working great.
1. Check the record count of the database based on date.
2. Use Chunking method - means copy 1000-5000 every time depending on the
load from the live database to temp archive database on the live server then
call another str proc to copy data from temp archive to remote archive
database server.
(reason being if network goes down btw live server/remote server [reason
unknown] you can still have data in temp not lost and can come back redo the
data.)
3. once copied to remote archive server, now come back delete that data from
the live database by "delete from live where seqno in temp archive database"
and later delete from temp archive. (seqno is a primary key field)
I go beyond this, once all the data has been copied, i check for the first
and last copied to archive server exists meaning it has successfully copied.
I wrote a program to do this, the program just calls 3 stored procedures and
str proc does all the above function.
Too much isn't it.
Arun
"Narayana Vyas Kondreddi" wrote:

> Here's the link: http://vyaskn.tripod.com/sql_archive_data.htm
> --
> HTH,
> Vyas, MVP (SQL Server)
> SQL Server Articles and Code Samples @. http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
>
> "Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
> news:Ogj%23SXfKFHA.3332@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
> Vyas has a great article on his web site about archiving.
> http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
>
>
> "Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:OwmojqdKFHA.1476@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> files/bcp/DTS
> it
>
>

Applying Snapshot Offline

I have snapshot files on CD , how can apply to
subscriber offline , without connecting to publisher
pl guide thorugh example or link
thanks
Fatiya
Fatiya,
if you step through the pull subscription wizard, there is the option to
browse to an alternative snapshot location.
HTH,
Paul Ibison SQL Server MVP, www.replicationanswers.com
(recommended sql server 2000 replication book:
http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602p.html)

Applying colors to reports

Is there a way to apply .css or Skin files to all reports. Changing colors in each and every page is a little cumbersome.

Thanks in advance

Unfortunately no. HTML control is on the wishlist for the next version I believe.|||How about creating a custom assembly and putting your formatting functions in this centralized shared library? Instead of hard-coding colors in your report, reference the shared library. I am in the process of creating 50 reports where the color scheme has not been finalized, and I need the ability to change the color scheme globally. Maybe I can code a way to pull the formatting information from a database table. It would be easier to update the colors that way, instead of having to redeploy the assembly dll with every color change.|||

We have been looking for the same thing, finally we did put our colors (textual) in a database-table and assign text and background colors with an expression, causes some work to do, this for earch report but once done, you can change al your reports depending on the season or whatever crazy reason to change layouts.

Even our header images come from a database so during some periods we can (just like google) do some funny stuff.

Users mostly appreciate it.

Applying colors to reports

Is there a way to apply .css or Skin files to all reports. Changing colors in each and every page is a little cumbersome.

Thanks in advance

Unfortunately no. HTML control is on the wishlist for the next version I believe.|||How about creating a custom assembly and putting your formatting functions in this centralized shared library? Instead of hard-coding colors in your report, reference the shared library. I am in the process of creating 50 reports where the color scheme has not been finalized, and I need the ability to change the color scheme globally. Maybe I can code a way to pull the formatting information from a database table. It would be easier to update the colors that way, instead of having to redeploy the assembly dll with every color change.|||

We have been looking for the same thing, finally we did put our colors (textual) in a database-table and assign text and background colors with an expression, causes some work to do, this for earch report but once done, you can change al your reports depending on the season or whatever crazy reason to change layouts.

Even our header images come from a database so during some periods we can (just like google) do some funny stuff.

Users mostly appreciate it.

applied dts files to sql server

I have a file named "posting.dts" in my c:\test\ directory,
how do I write a script to apply this dts package to SQL server "server1"?
thanksWhy do you need to write a script?
Can't you just right-click the Data Transformation Services folder in
EM and Select Open Package.
You could then browse to the .dts file and do a save as and save on the
Server?
Barry|||but i have many dts files, I want to apply them automatically with scripts.
I know how to apply dts script manually.
"Barry" wrote:

> Why do you need to write a script?
> Can't you just right-click the Data Transformation Services folder in
> EM and Select Open Package.
> You could then browse to the .dts file and do a save as and save on the
> Server?
> Barry
>

Application Security

We have a Visual Basic 5 .exe that is used to launch an application process
to import files from our application server to update the database server.
Both servers are Windows 2003 Server Standard Edition. The application laun
ches MS Access 2000 and imp
orts files into an Access database table and then connects to our database s
erver hosting SQL Server 2000 Sp3 to update a master table of users.
The VB app is launched with a local account on the app server and uses a reg
istry value to get the database connection string using SQL Authentication.
We have noticed an authentication error message (Failure Event ID 529) on t
he SQL server for the accou
nt launching the scheduled task that runs the imports. The error only occur
s on the SQL server when a load occurs on the application server. The load
occurs when users run a Web .ASP application and run end of month procedures
. It connects to the same
SQL server with the same SQL Authenticated credentials.
The import VB application does not start to authenticate unless a load is pr
esent on the server. Why would the security context change and go away from
SQL authentication' The work around so far is to use a domain account or
mirrored account on the SQL
server.
Thanks.It sounds like the VB application is using a connection string that is
requesting Windows Authentication. This is why it works if you
use a domain account or duplicate the user account and passwords. Check
the Security tab in Enterprise manager and verify that you are allowing
both SQL and Windows Authentication. Enable auditing for both failed and
successfull logins and test using both standard and Windows authentication
to validate the logging.
Thanks,
Kevin McDonnell
Microsoft Corporation
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.

application login , but user security

Hi everybody...please don't flame me for my ignorance.
We are in the process of migrating from mainframe application using
vsam files to MICROFOCUS and SQL server
Here is the senario we are at now :
In mainframe, the application might be able to read and write to the
file, but the write access is controled by the RACF (security software
like active directory). In other words, even though USER A can execute
the application, he cannot write to it, because the security software
doesn't allow USER A to write to the file.
In the new environment, our online application are replaced by a
product called MICROFOCUS -ES_MTO. ES-MTO connects to sqlserver via an
application userid (lets say APPL1). USERA logins in to the ES-MTO
using login id USERA, but then ES-MTO connects to sqlserver using
APPL1. APPL1 has read/write authority on the tables. USERA should be
able to execute the application, so he can read the table, but
shouldn't be able to write to it.
The application is however a read/write application.
I hope I was clear enough on my sceneraio.
What I am hoping to find out is, how can I still use sqlserver to check
permission using the real user login id , when the application uses the
application userid to connect ?
Am I making sense ?
Any help or input is greatly appreciated .
ThanksSQL Server security context is determined by the login used to connect to
SQL Server or an application role enabled after the connection is made. If
ES_MTO uses a single login, you won't be able to implement a SQL Server
security model that allows you to control access based on an individual
user's identity unless your application code can conditionally enable an
application role. I know nothing about ES_MTO so I can't comment on whether
or not that approach is feasible. You can read about application roles in
the SQL Server Books Online
Hope this helps.
Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP
"sql rookie" <anytasks@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114703232.008696.232480@.g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi everybody...please don't flame me for my ignorance.
> We are in the process of migrating from mainframe application using
> vsam files to MICROFOCUS and SQL server
> Here is the senario we are at now :
> In mainframe, the application might be able to read and write to the
> file, but the write access is controled by the RACF (security software
> like active directory). In other words, even though USER A can execute
> the application, he cannot write to it, because the security software
> doesn't allow USER A to write to the file.
> In the new environment, our online application are replaced by a
> product called MICROFOCUS -ES_MTO. ES-MTO connects to sqlserver via an
> application userid (lets say APPL1). USERA logins in to the ES-MTO
> using login id USERA, but then ES-MTO connects to sqlserver using
> APPL1. APPL1 has read/write authority on the tables. USERA should be
> able to execute the application, so he can read the table, but
> shouldn't be able to write to it.
> The application is however a read/write application.
> I hope I was clear enough on my sceneraio.
> What I am hoping to find out is, how can I still use sqlserver to check
> permission using the real user login id , when the application uses the
> application userid to connect ?
> Am I making sense ?
> Any help or input is greatly appreciated .
> Thanks
>|||sql rookie wrote:
What I am hoping to find out is, how can I still use sqlserver to check
permission using the real user login id , when the application uses the
application userid to connect ?
Am I making sense ?
My response:
I am unsure what you mean by using 'sqlserver to check permission using the
real user login id'?
If you setup the security on the MicroFocus environment using SQLServer
security (uid and password). This userid can be granted R/W access to the
tables while the real user id will not be granted them. You can then contro
l
access to writing/updating the tables via the application. If you want/need
to have the user be able to read the information outside of the application
(Access linked tables, Excel Queries, etc) you can grant the 'real user id'
read access to the tables/views.
Does this cover your question'
Mike
--
Mike Mattix
CP Kelco, Inc
Okmulgee, OK
"sql rookie" wrote:

> Hi everybody...please don't flame me for my ignorance.
> We are in the process of migrating from mainframe application using
> vsam files to MICROFOCUS and SQL server
> Here is the senario we are at now :
> In mainframe, the application might be able to read and write to the
> file, but the write access is controled by the RACF (security software
> like active directory). In other words, even though USER A can execute
> the application, he cannot write to it, because the security software
> doesn't allow USER A to write to the file.
> In the new environment, our online application are replaced by a
> product called MICROFOCUS -ES_MTO. ES-MTO connects to sqlserver via an
> application userid (lets say APPL1). USERA logins in to the ES-MTO
> using login id USERA, but then ES-MTO connects to sqlserver using
> APPL1. APPL1 has read/write authority on the tables. USERA should be
> able to execute the application, so he can read the table, but
> shouldn't be able to write to it.
> The application is however a read/write application.
> I hope I was clear enough on my sceneraio.
> What I am hoping to find out is, how can I still use sqlserver to check
> permission using the real user login id , when the application uses the
> application userid to connect ?
> Am I making sense ?
> Any help or input is greatly appreciated .
> Thanks
>

App.Config files in a Custom Database Extension Class Library

Good Morning..

We're having a heck of a good time trying to implement our first CDE project in SSRS 2005.

In our SDE class library we have included an App.Config file where we want to store configuration settings..

Trouble is that when we view the configuration settings or connection string settings in debug mode, they're not being read for some reason..

Here's our app.config file:

-

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>

<configuration>

<configSections>

</configSections>

<appSettings>

<add key="eventLogName" value="FocusDPEEventLog" />

</appSettings>

<connectionStrings>

<add name="PassConnString" connectionString="Data Source=SOMEDATASOURSE;Persist Security Info=True;User ID=SOMEUSERNAME;Password=SOMEPASSWORD;Unicode=True"

providerName="System.Data.OracleClient" />

</connectionStrings>

</configuration>

-

Here's what our Immediate window Debugger is tellin' us about our configuration settings:

-

ConfigurationManager.AppSettings

{System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection}

[System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection]: {System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection}

base {System.Collections.Specialized.NameObjectCollectionBase}: {System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection}

AllKeys: {Dimensions:[0]}<-incorrect should be 1

ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings

Count = 1 <-ok, is one, but the wrong 1, see 3 lines down...

base {System.Configuration.ConfigurationElementCollection}: Count = 1

ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings[0]

{data source=.\SQLEXPRESS;Integrated Security=SSPI;AttachDBFilename=|DataDirectory|aspnetdb.mdf;User Instance=true}<--Should be PassConnString

base {System.Configuration.ConfigurationElement}: {data source=.\SQLEXPRESS;Integrated Security=SSPI;AttachDBFilename=|DataDirectory|aspnetdb.mdf;User Instance=true}

ConnectionString: "data source=.\\SQLEXPRESS;Integrated Security=SSPI;AttachDBFilename=|DataDirectory|aspnetdb.mdf;User Instance=true"

Name: "LocalSqlServer"

ProviderName: "System.Data.SqlClient"

Now notice the stuff in bold...I have NO IDEA where this gosh-danged thing is reading, but it doesn't seem like it's the app.config file in our class library...

thanks..

Doug

Hi

I am facing the same problem. I dont know where to set the custom configuration settings. I am pretty sure it will have to be somewhere in Report Server Config files, but where?

Regarding the stuff in bold you are seeing is coming from the base asp.net machine settings.

App.Config files in a Custom Database Extension Class Library

Good Morning..

We're having a heck of a good time trying to implement our first CDE project in SSRS 2005.

In our SDE class library we have included an App.Config file where we want to store configuration settings..

Trouble is that when we view the configuration settings or connection string settings in debug mode, they're not being read for some reason..

Here's our app.config file:

-

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>

<configuration>

<configSections>

</configSections>

<appSettings>

<add key="eventLogName" value="FocusDPEEventLog" />

</appSettings>

<connectionStrings>

<add name="PassConnString" connectionString="Data Source=SOMEDATASOURSE;Persist Security Info=True;User ID=SOMEUSERNAME;Password=SOMEPASSWORD;Unicode=True"

providerName="System.Data.OracleClient" />

</connectionStrings>

</configuration>

-

Here's what our Immediate window Debugger is tellin' us about our configuration settings:

-

ConfigurationManager.AppSettings

{System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection}

[System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection]: {System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection}

base {System.Collections.Specialized.NameObjectCollectionBase}: {System.Configuration.KeyValueInternalCollection}

AllKeys: {Dimensions:[0]}<-incorrect should be 1

ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings

Count = 1 <-ok, is one, but the wrong 1, see 3 lines down...

base {System.Configuration.ConfigurationElementCollection}: Count = 1

ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings[0]

{data source=.\SQLEXPRESS;Integrated Security=SSPI;AttachDBFilename=|DataDirectory|aspnetdb.mdf;User Instance=true}<--Should be PassConnString

base {System.Configuration.ConfigurationElement}: {data source=.\SQLEXPRESS;Integrated Security=SSPI;AttachDBFilename=|DataDirectory|aspnetdb.mdf;User Instance=true}

ConnectionString: "data source=.\\SQLEXPRESS;Integrated Security=SSPI;AttachDBFilename=|DataDirectory|aspnetdb.mdf;User Instance=true"

Name: "LocalSqlServer"

ProviderName: "System.Data.SqlClient"

Now notice the stuff in bold...I have NO IDEA where this gosh-danged thing is reading, but it doesn't seem like it's the app.config file in our class library...

thanks..

Doug

Hi

I am facing the same problem. I dont know where to set the custom configuration settings. I am pretty sure it will have to be somewhere in Report Server Config files, but where?

Regarding the stuff in bold you are seeing is coming from the base asp.net machine settings.